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the economy, democrats might object when i say this, but the economy more than republicans were the president's enemy in the first time. no money coming in, no room to maneuver. >> he's got one fight after another coming up, although we've put off one fight a couple months, and the president has to get over that in order to get to the rest of his agenda, and the question i have is whether the president is going to actually anger some of his liberal team by making those commitments on entitlement cutbacks on medicare, for example, in particular in order to get to the rest of his agenda and to david's point, to keep the economy chucking along. >> does he see that, david, as central though? i mean, to so many people in the business community, it does seem central. if you don't put out a plan for entitlement reform, you can't get long-term growth in the economy, you srm can't, because there's too many unknowns and strangle holds that are going to hit the economy. does he see it that way or does he not see that risk? >> i think that's a really good question because at the end of the day i think the
the economy, democrats might object when i say this, but the economy more than republicans were the president's enemy in the first time. no money coming in, no room to maneuver. >> he's got one fight after another coming up, although we've put off one fight a couple months, and the president has to get over that in order to get to the rest of his agenda, and the question i have is whether the president is going to actually anger some of his liberal team by making those commitments on...
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the amount of debt that -- >> that's the economy, exactly. i think what's interesting and what i'm looking to see is, what exactly does this vaunted pivot to asia mean? does that mean they're going to take their eye off other crucial areas, like what's happens in africa with the al qaeda affiliates. what about the peace situation in israel? the truth of the matter is unless israel/palestine is fixed and solved, many of these neighboring countries are going to feel the reverberations. >> should that would be a priority? >> i think so. and so do many people who cover that region. it will take political capital and political courage. without a vested u.s. presidential involvement that is really consistent and persistent, not much is going to change. and previous histories have shown when the u.s. president is really into it, things do change. but i think come back to afghanistan, the president wants to get out of that country and is, 2014 will be the out date. this is where al qaeda started. and people are concerned that the u.s. and other force
the amount of debt that -- >> that's the economy, exactly. i think what's interesting and what i'm looking to see is, what exactly does this vaunted pivot to asia mean? does that mean they're going to take their eye off other crucial areas, like what's happens in africa with the al qaeda affiliates. what about the peace situation in israel? the truth of the matter is unless israel/palestine is fixed and solved, many of these neighboring countries are going to feel the reverberations....
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getting the economy under "control" will be very, very important. the president faces one problem, though, and we become almost a parliamentary system in the actions of legislative bodies and he's got a republican house that he's got to find a rhythm to work with him. president clinton did that, joe, his second term we were able to balance the budget for four years, but it's difficult and they have not found a rhythm yet and until they do that, i think it limits what he can get done. >> interesting to me because in an early press conference the president said he was well aware of what happened to many other presidents in their second terms and clearly referring to an overreach that you have with second-term presidents who were thinking about their legacy. joe, as you look at, as you look at president obama and you look at his agenda, gun control, immigration reform, climate change, got to get through all the fiscal problems first. i mean, is that overreach? >> i don't think so. there are things that he has to do. climate change is a really difficult
getting the economy under "control" will be very, very important. the president faces one problem, though, and we become almost a parliamentary system in the actions of legislative bodies and he's got a republican house that he's got to find a rhythm to work with him. president clinton did that, joe, his second term we were able to balance the budget for four years, but it's difficult and they have not found a rhythm yet and until they do that, i think it limits what he can get done....
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. >> well, it is four years later now, a battered economy and political extremism, even more so than it was at the time he gave that speech. how does he create a lasting vision of his own presidency? joining us, presidential historian richard norton smith. it does strike me this address is the beginning of the writing of history of the presidency of barack obama. everyone talks about how in the second term, presidents run for history. this is that first kind of draft, isn't it? >> some ways that's a dangerous concept. think about it, all of a sudden you're playing to the academic jury, that's the ultimate electorate, the people who will decide if you're a near great president or average president, you know, whether you're a teddy roosevelt or a chester arthur, and you probably shouldn't be playing to them more than any other particular interest group. i'm part of the jury. see, you only get to vote for president once are we get to vote over and over again. but presidents really, it seems to me, that's just one more interest group they should avoid tailoring their actions. >> we talk
. >> well, it is four years later now, a battered economy and political extremism, even more so than it was at the time he gave that speech. how does he create a lasting vision of his own presidency? joining us, presidential historian richard norton smith. it does strike me this address is the beginning of the writing of history of the presidency of barack obama. everyone talks about how in the second term, presidents run for history. this is that first kind of draft, isn't it? >>...
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he had the best economy in a generation, that was the time to get them durngs the lewinsky scandal came along. bush tried to do them, iraq war and then katrina. he couldn't get it done. will this president seize this moment and tries to do medicare and social security, his vice president say i want to run for president. >> he will be more successful because he's tougher. there's danger and frankly david gergen, wrote a great piece on cnn.com called obama 2.0, really goes through it. there are dangers but he's going to be more successful because he's tougher. i think republicans respect him more as a tougher negotiator. >> what about democrats? >> he's got problems. >> here's my question to you which is, you've gottlieb brawl it democrats and the fiscal test is going to be all of these issues coming up on how you cut spending, what you do to the military, mine all of this stuff coming up. if the president says, i want a grand bargain and we've got to cut medicare as part of a big deal, where -- is he going to say to his own party, sorry, guys? >> he will say that and i will say this, the
he had the best economy in a generation, that was the time to get them durngs the lewinsky scandal came along. bush tried to do them, iraq war and then katrina. he couldn't get it done. will this president seize this moment and tries to do medicare and social security, his vice president say i want to run for president. >> he will be more successful because he's tougher. there's danger and frankly david gergen, wrote a great piece on cnn.com called obama 2.0, really goes through it. there...
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first saw the poll numbers that you just put up on the screen and i thought, well you know what the economy is still bad there's 7.8% unemployment, underemployment is also skyrocketing. then my husband had to go look at the cross caps. >> i hate it when i look at that. >> toad look at the science. toad read the numbers. you had a great point. you did discover something that is noteworthy. >> if you break it down, the real news here is the polarization. i mean, 76% of democrats thing thinks are going very well. only 28% of republicans. just another reminder of how drunk we are on partisanship. >> that partisanship or is it that democrats are glass half-full and republicans are glass half-empty? >> marg is a great very glass half-full republican. >> reagan was a sunny optimist you can the eternal optimist. >> he was. it does speak to how our partisanship fueled our perceptions, looking at the same data. >> let's talk about this thing about monarch, king conflict that many republicans say the president has. i want to get this quote. here's what republican senator rand paul says. he said, gop s
first saw the poll numbers that you just put up on the screen and i thought, well you know what the economy is still bad there's 7.8% unemployment, underemployment is also skyrocketing. then my husband had to go look at the cross caps. >> i hate it when i look at that. >> toad look at the science. toad read the numbers. you had a great point. you did discover something that is noteworthy. >> if you break it down, the real news here is the polarization. i mean, 76% of democrats...
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you have to have growth of the economy, but i need to see policies will actually do that. we don't see them now. >> i spoke with david plouffe in the segment before this. he said that he is confident there are enough vote he is in the huntsd requisite 60 votes in the senate to pass universal background checks for gun owners and limiting the clips, those high-capacity magazine clips that i can fire off so many rounds to 10 and under. do you think that's so? do you think congress would pass a ban on those clips i with ten or over and a universal background check is that gonna happen? >> no, i don't think it will. candy, that gets beside the major issues this face american families you can jobs and the economy and the debt and spending that's where people are focused. that's the big anxiety of this country. >> sure, i agree with you, but as you know, you deal with a lot of things up there and the white house, people and their families deal with a loft things, one of the things out there are is gun control of some sort, addresses newtown, gun control or better access to mental
you have to have growth of the economy, but i need to see policies will actually do that. we don't see them now. >> i spoke with david plouffe in the segment before this. he said that he is confident there are enough vote he is in the huntsd requisite 60 votes in the senate to pass universal background checks for gun owners and limiting the clips, those high-capacity magazine clips that i can fire off so many rounds to 10 and under. do you think that's so? do you think congress would pass...
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the economy did not go into full-blown depression. the biggest disappointment, it did not improve more than half. it's, i second what david gergen says, it's astonishing that he was re-elected given the state of the economy and it really does mean that such things as the affordable care act are going to remain in place for four years. really controversial now, but after four years of getting used to it, americans, i think, will decide, let's keep it. >> alex i did not get the memo about a blue suit and red tie. look like a quartet. >> what do you think? >> i agree that i think the biggest accomplishment is that he forestalled a crisis, but he forestalled it by spreading it out and we're back in the '30s now. this is fdr. this is going to be economic stagnation and a depression that won't end. but i think an accomplishment, just to add something a little different, that he has finally destroyed the old republican party and we've hit rock bottom and, so, out of this, we will either emerge with something new and better that speaks of the
the economy did not go into full-blown depression. the biggest disappointment, it did not improve more than half. it's, i second what david gergen says, it's astonishing that he was re-elected given the state of the economy and it really does mean that such things as the affordable care act are going to remain in place for four years. really controversial now, but after four years of getting used to it, americans, i think, will decide, let's keep it. >> alex i did not get the memo about a...
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the world is unraveling in front of us, the economy still in tough shape. president obama has a tough hand of cards to play here. >> congress is as popular as a root canal. only 7% of the american people have approvehood of congress. i think this president is going to get off to a great start tomorrow. congratulations, barack obama, the people are very excited to be here in washington, d.c. >> congratulations. on that we agree. >> the picture of diversity up here now. let's talk about diversity. the president has got an a lot of criticism for his senior cabinet picks, right? appears to be all white men here, senior adviser, valerie jarrett, an african-american woman, said this to cnn earlier today. let's take a listen. >> his cabinet, when he is finished, and he is far from finished, will have diversity, including women, including people of color. he believes makes his best decisions when he is surrounded by people who have different perspectives and give him their best ideas. and so, one picture does not speak 1,000 words in this instance. i spent a lot of
the world is unraveling in front of us, the economy still in tough shape. president obama has a tough hand of cards to play here. >> congress is as popular as a root canal. only 7% of the american people have approvehood of congress. i think this president is going to get off to a great start tomorrow. congratulations, barack obama, the people are very excited to be here in washington, d.c. >> congratulations. on that we agree. >> the picture of diversity up here now. let's...
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we don't do that we will continue to have a low-growth economy with high unemployment. got to get our fiscal house in order. to me that is the biggest of all. >> havens, do you think, given the president any genuine sign they are willing to work with him? >> well, the decision to postpone a fight over the debt limit, that, of itself, was. they saved themselves from themselves, which i believe. but also a recognition the president has the upper hand on some things, can't fight him on everything. republicans need to be smarter. so, that was one sign right there, republicans are doing it. i also think if the senate can pass a birnlgt the house will have to act and then a real test of where the republicans are going to actually compromise at the end of the day. and i was at the republican retreat in williamsburg and i did an address to all house republicans and said your fight is not with john boehner, your fight is with james madison. he wrote this system this is the government we have. if you believe in the constitution, we have division of power. tough work within that t
we don't do that we will continue to have a low-growth economy with high unemployment. got to get our fiscal house in order. to me that is the biggest of all. >> havens, do you think, given the president any genuine sign they are willing to work with him? >> well, the decision to postpone a fight over the debt limit, that, of itself, was. they saved themselves from themselves, which i believe. but also a recognition the president has the upper hand on some things, can't fight him on...